Tuesday, December 2, 2008

Product Review: Double-Cloth Marie Coat

Double-cloth Marie Coat
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Item 99244
Regular: $330.00
Now: $129.99

How lovely is the Marie coat from the images at J.Crew!?! And the current price makes this coat even more attractive! Although, this coat (with its "slight cocoon shape") seems like the type that I would need to see and try on in person. (And unfortunately, this item is catalog/jcrew.com only.) :)

Luckily for us, two members of the blog shared with us their review of the Marie coat. :)

And4MyNextTrick (in this post) shared the following review:

I have the Marie coat in majestic purple. The colour is definitely more of a bluish purple, comparable to the Jackie twinset and kelly blouse in the same colour. I love the colour and the double-knit fabric, which has a bit of stretch and is very comfortable. The fabric also retains a fresh look for years.

This coat is generously cut IMO. The website copy says it has a slight cocoon shape, which is a major design element of the coat. The cocoon shape is not really evident on the model in the photographs online or in catalogues but it is evident as soon as you put it on. If you are pear-shaped, this is not a good coat for you. It is designed for people who are straight or apple-shaped as there is room in the middle and it tapers in at the bottom. Pear shapes will have too much room around the waist and it won't be as flattering as a cinched-waist coat like the Lady Day or Madeleine, any style with a belt. There is no inside pocket in this coat either, it is pretty basic in design.

The coat is a little longer than it looks on the model as well. I am 5'7" with long legs and it falls to the lower part of my thigh. Overall, the coat is not crisply tailored, it is a relaxed, casual coat. The raglan sleeves and seaming darts give it ease and comfort. The sleeves are roomy as one would expect in a more relaxed garment. I ordered my regular size and I can layer a sweater, suit jacket or puffer vest underneath. I didn't want to go down a size as I have several very fitted coats and I wanted one that allows me layering options for cold weather and is more casual for a change from my work life, which is
all business suits. If you want it to be more fitted, a smaller size may be your best bet.

Review Marie Coat (in this post) also shared the following review:

This coat is a thumbs down for me mainly because of the color and the fabric. Even at the low price of $129 + add'l 30% off I'm not going to keep it or purchase it in any other color. (Just a note, the one I rec'd today is the one that went missing so lucky me, I have another Marie coming that I'll have to return.)

Add'l details:
- the collar is meant to be worn up, you can't put it down if you want to;

-I'm 5'7", 130 lbs., curvy with boxy hips & it fits TTS (ordered a size 4) but if you have any more than a bump of a rear the coat will hug it and the coat above your rear will look billowy between the rear and upper back. Maybe size up if you're curvy;

-the fabric is scratchy, not soft, to the touch, but not itchy;

-I dislike the seems along side the outside of each arm and I dislike the buttons;

-and finally it's comfortable but not a keeper for me.


I had high hopes for Marie to replace my mid-thigh casual coat from 9 years ago but the Marie isn't it. I wanted casual but this coat is just blah (as Snoopy would say). I also have a habit of building high hopes around items that never live up to my expectations. I hope it works for others. :)


"Thanks!" to both And4MyNextTrick and Review Marie Coat for sharing their great reviews with us! :)

What are your thoughts of the Marie Coat (do you like/dislike the style, design, fabric)? Are you considering or already have purchased this coat? Have you tried this coat on in-person? If so, please share with us your reviews too! :)

181 comments:

  1. My review of the Marie Coat: I ordered the heather majestic purple, which is a lovely purple/blue-ish color. I was so excited to try it on since J. Crew winter coats are always so flattering, even with lots of bulky sweaters and layers we need to stay warm here in the NE. I ordered a size 4 (I'm 5'7", 140 lbs. with an athletic build--narrower hips, straight waist, and more solidly built than the model in the picture), However, when I put it on, it was incredibly disappointing. The coat was boxy through the shoulders, torso, and then narrower on the hips and thighs. There is no back vent, which probably makes the shape of it worse. It was way too loose in the torso (both front and back), and made me feel like a huge blueberry. Not exactly the look I was going for. :(

    I'm not sure that ordering down a size would help (I am consistently a 4 in J. Crew jackets, blazers, and overcoats), so I'm returning the coat tomorrow and tonight I ordered the Lady Day Coat in size 4 with thinsulate in HMP. I think that will suit me much better.

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  2. Don't know if anyone has mentioned this- Lo from The Hills was wearing the victoria ruffle cami in navy on tonight's ep- it looked adorable as always!

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  3. Wow, thanks to everyone for all the reviews on this coat. It is really helpful to hear all about this style of coat.

    I think the reviews posts are my favorite part of this blog.

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  4. I caught that too, M.A.- I knew that cami looked familiar!

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  5. Now that I have had the Marie coat for a while, I love it even more. As I mentioned in my review, it is not a style for curvy or pear-shaped women as it will not be as flattering for them as other styles. It is loose and relaxed, which is a departure from my usual style. I am able to wear the collar down as long as the top set of buttons is undone and open, in a peacoat style.

    Although it is a casual coat, I wore it to work yesterday over a black pencil skirt suit and one of my fashionista co-workers went crazy over the "retro look". I recall my mother had a similar-shaped coat a few decades ago and it did look really sharp. Another co-worker thought it had a Joan Crawford look with broader shoulders and the taper at the bottom. Of course, I was curious to see what people would think so I deliberately cut through the bistro on my way to the office. ;)

    There are other versions of this cocoonish coat silhouette on JCrew's website - Taryn, Astor, and also in several stores so I predict this will be a popular shape in seasons to come. It really looks good over skinny bottoms, whether jeans or a slim skirt. Reminds me of the 1980's styles and I absolutely love it. Certainly won't work for everyone but it is a wonderful addition to my coat closet.

    I will post some photos IRL later today so people can get a better idea about the cut, without stylists making their adjustments for the photo shoot.

    OT - I notice the Lacquered crackle jacket is available on the website again today, but only in size 4.

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  6. Oh, I almost forgot!

    Alexis, thank you for posting my review. I'm very flattered.
    :-)

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  7. Alexis - Such an awesome review! Thanks!

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  8. i know this is OT, but does anyone have the stadium-cloth shipley coat? i'm still wavering and since it's catalog-only i'd love to get a review on it! thanks!

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  9. Thanks for the fantastic reviews! I love hearing other Aficionadas opinions on J.Crew items IRL. :)

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  10. and4mynexttrick: thank you so much for the great review! :)

    Lindsey B: thanks for the nice comment! :)

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  11. I too love to read reviews. I make many of my major purchase decisions based on the opinions, reviews, and comments that I read right here! Thanks and much appreciation to all who take the time to do this! :)

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  12. Ok, bare with me on this explanation...

    I placed an order with JCrew. Then the items went on sale so I ordered them again with full intention of returning the higher cost items purchased first.

    I just received one shipment, the higher priced items. Today when I look on the website, they have the status of the lower cost items "pre-returned" and "returned". Maybe they anticipate the returns but the kicker is the "pre-returned" items are the lower priced items. (I highly doubt they are so advanced as to have a query in place to designate duplicate orders with price differences to the same customers.)

    I know they post "pre-returns" if you call in about a damaged item, etc. This prompts the CS in the store to call in and check why the status says "pre-returned".

    Has anyone else seen this on their online order status?

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  13. Yes, prereturned means you are not getting the item. It is out of stock. This has happened to me 3 times since July.

    You won't be able to do the return on the higher priced items for the lower price.

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  14. OT - so it looks like no updates to the sale section today either....booooooo! I was off work yesterday, and am today as well, and may plan was to spend the days on the internet (ie on jcrew.com)...what a bummer!!

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  15. I bet JCrew doesn't update again until Thurs. after the extra 30% off sale....

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  16. Does anyone have the ASTRID boucle jacket / droopy flower? I am thinking about getting the charcoal one, but am unsure about sizing. Is it TTS? I usu wear a 4-6, but the Penney needed a size 2 bec. it ran huge.

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  17. Anonymous @9:41 AM:
    The one item is on backorder until 12/17 so they should've waitlisted my item rather than "returned" it. It makes me think it's one of those items that won't come in and will be cancelled anyway. I put some things aside to call because it really concerned me. I understand now why they "return" items with a status of shipped, but not yet really returned. Kudos, by the way to their phone CS.

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  18. Anon 9:46 AM
    Yesterday the site was updated around 11:00am EST. It seems to be the same as yesterday.

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  19. A bit OT, but does anyone have comments on the Stadium Cloth Bridget coat? I've been watching it for months now and I was going to finally get it, but of course now my size is gone. I wanted a 0P but now 2P is my only option. Naturally, it's on final sale. Can anyone provide feedback about how it fits compared with other coats (like last year's double-breasted wool/cashmere Dani, this year's Lucinda, or some of the other coats)?

    Is it super-loose or would it possibly be okay to go up a size? Also, Is there a big difference between the regular and petite in this coat? I saw that the 0 was still available.

    Thank you!

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  20. M.A., I was excited to see Lo in the Victoria, too! Glad others saw it!

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  21. what does open status mean?

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  22. Thanks for that wonderful review, Alexis and and4mynexttrick! The coat is so pretty, and I've always loved the majestic purple items J.Crew comes out with. :)

    m.a., Chloe and Amy: I was sitting there staring at the TV for the longest time, arguing with myself whether that was the Victoria or not! LOL! It looked so good....more enabling, more enabling...

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  23. don't know if it's honestly just IT problems or if they are purposely updating the site with 'sold out' items to create buzz...this morning 100+ items were "added" to the women's sale but they were never available (red note at the bottom about go see the gift guru). i love jcrew, but don't have the patience for that.

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  24. I have a question that has puzzled me for weeks. Now since Jcrew's sale section does update on a specific time as before (6:45), I have to check it often to see when it is updated. Recently, I usually don't see much updates till around 10am, and then all of sudden, I see the item number increased with new addition to the sale section. But almost all of the new addition items are sold out already. I don't know whether there's something wrong with browser--when there is updates but my browser just doesn't see it; or they just update the sale section with a bunch of sold out items. Does anyone see the same thing? Please, it is driving me crazy.

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  25. I know this is a bit OT, but does anyone know what J. Crew shoes are good for traveling? I'm going to Italy in September (Rome, Florence, Venice, etc.) and want some good traveling shoes that are fashionable yet won't kill my feet. So far, I'm not having any luck. By the way, there are a lot of ugly "comfort" shoes out there!

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  26. I should probably clarify to my above review (post #1): I am NOT curvy or pear-shaped. I'm shaped like an eraser--evenly distributed top, middle, and bottom (which can be a problem for example, with jeans because never fit my waist if they fit my hips, and are too big in the hips and thighs if they fit in the waist!). I think if you have a similar body type to the model in the picture, it will look beautiful on you.

    OT, did J. Crew stop making their hip-slung jeans? The bootcut don't fit me right (see above), so if this is the case, I'm filled with sadness.

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  27. I want to try the coat mainly because the color's great! I can't decide on a size though. My other jcrew coats are all size 6, but I think maybe the cocoon shape with throw sizing off. I'm 5'6", 112 lbs. Anyone with my body type have any advice?

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  28. himmiefan:

    I definitely recommend to bring "flat" shoes. You will walk on stone-paved roads in Italy. So heels would not be comfortable. I would bring "J.Crew Liv flats" or "London Sole flats" if I were you. HTH

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  29. Not to be a mood killer, but I must say it looks like a boy's coat to me...it's not my favorite J. Crew style.

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  30. I take that last comment back...it only looked like a boy's coat on the model b/c she is wearing a white shirt & tie :). I looked again & I think it's really cute.

    I bought the Madison in bright poppy over the weekend. Does everyone here wear their brightly colored coats (majestic purple, bright poppy, etc.) for everyday, or only special occasions? I wondered if red would work for everyday...

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  31. himmiefan -

    I would second the recommendation for flat shoes, and I don't think the ballet flats from J Crew will cut it either. You need something with thicker soles. Those cobblestones really kill your feet after you've been walking for 5-6 hours straight. Also bring at least 2 pairs to switch around, as even the best shoes hurt after a while.

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  32. himmiefan-
    can i suggest purchasing ANYONE else's shoes? LOL!
    Not J Crew--flats are too flat for a lot of walking-no support, heels hurt when you are sitting down-ha! Sorry but JC shoes are just not comfortable--although SO great looking.

    Caliglam-
    I have the Floppy Astrid and I bought it in my normal JC sz and actually the same sz I wore in the berry astrid and any other typical blazer from JC. This is a great jacket! There are ways to deal with the flower. I took it off and put something else-really cute!HTH!

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  33. I'm 5'4 and about 112 pounds...should I get a size 2?

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  34. OT- does anyone own the tissue sequin-placket henley? Any comments of like or dislike?

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  35. Thanks for the good reviews, everyone. :) I would never have realized it was a cocoon shape if people hadn't pointed it out. I tend to go by the picture more than the description and it definitely seems to have a more normal silhouette. As a pear shape, I am happy to have been saved by an impulsive decision to buy this coat!

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  36. la petite crew,

    I don't know about petite sizing but the online sale section is *not* final sale right now...not in the fine print.

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  37. himmiefan, try a pair of the cole haan nike air low heel wedges--no heel to get caught and only 1 inch or so height, plus sneaker cushioning. :)

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  38. Hi All- I just received my Marie in heather majestic purple and I love it, but it is TOO BIG! For reference, I am 5'2, 112lbs. I ordered a size 4 and I need to size way down to either a 4P or 2P- maybe even a 0P. Problem is- All are sold out online :(

    Did anyone order the Marie Coat in heather majestic purple in any of these sizes and dislike it? If so, rather than returning it, would you maybe send it over my way or trade?

    Thank you!
    acarosi@mail.uri.edu

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  39. crystal: noticed the same thing about the website ... items that I noticed popping back into the sale section this morning are no longer available ... I just figured maybe there was only 1 of the item and it sold right away? no clue!

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  40. hi all - OT - has anyone tried these items:

    alessia patent leather mary jane heels #99606

    wool jersey satin trim tank #10307

    wool jersey button trim cami #10306

    onyx sequin dress #99984

    If so, any reviews? They are all sitting in my shopping cart, and I want to pull the trigger :)

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  41. (read: enabler request :) )

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  42. Himmiefan - bring flats and walking shoes for Italy! Rome is really hard on the feet and Florence is only slightly better. I didn't bring any J.Crew shoes when I went this summer because I find them to be pretty hard to walk in for long periods of time. My Tory Burch flats were my best friends because they have the elastic in back so I didn't get blisters when my feet swelled from all the walking. Italian women generally wear flats during the day and heels at night, so if you plan to go out in the evenings (which you should!), bring one pair of heels but flats otherwise. And definitely bring one pair of really comfortable flats you can fall back on in case your cute flats give you trouble!

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  43. beth - i purchased the onyx sequin dress! too cute for words, BUT i was nervous about the fit. i orginally ordered it in my normal dress size. then after placing the order realized the decription said it was very fitted (so it got me thinking...and i normally size up in the suiting dresses), so the next order i placed i ordered the next sie up. however, all of that was completely unneccessary and i ended up needing to sizedown. (then it occurred to me i always size up for my bust, and since this was so open, it was unneccessary) but i think the dress is really cute, very user friendly to those with a big chest, but you will def have to wear a cami underneath, or everything will show. hth - let me know if you have any specific questions. ps - def looks like more then $70!

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  44. Himmiefan, couldn't agree more with the others about travel shoes! All throughout Italy, my Cole Haan Nike Air shoes were lifesavers - both the tennie-inspired varieties and the wedges/heels. With the recent perpetual 30% at colehaan.com, the prices (especially on sale items) are quite competitive.

    The only ballet flats I found to be useful in Italy were my few pairs of Me Too flats which have slightly thicker rubber soles. There are dozens of colors now and they're always pretty cheap because it's not an expensive brand. Amazon has a bunch: the "nell", "nevada" and "nasha" are cute styles.

    Have a fabulous trip! I'm so jealous - Italy is our favorite destination.

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  45. anon@ 12:05 - I took a chance on the Lucinda coat because I don't think it's final sale. But how can we tell which items are? The Bridget is priced at $249.99. I thought that all items ending in a .99 price were final sale. I thought only the .00 and .50 items were on promotion but returnable. I'd love to try the Bridget in a size 2P or 0 but I don't want to lose the money if it doesn't fit. Can someone please clarify?

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  46. I was told by my PS earlier today that there is NO final sale on online purchases right now...everything is returnable. :)

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  47. kate! - thanks so much for the input on the onyx dress!! so glad you like it! i agree that it is just too cute!! i think i will go for it. thanks for the input on sizing too - sometimes the descriptions can be deceiving. i figured a cami would be necessary (even though i am only an A-cup - haha) but wasn't it weird how the picture on the website shows a white favorite tank under it?? i mean if I am wearing a "little black dress" i am probably going to wear a black, or at least a bit dresssier of a cami underneath!!

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  48. La Petite-
    Oh--what a great suggestion! My Me Too shoes are hands down the most comfy flats I own. I have a few pairs actually cause once you try them--you keep looking for another style! I haven't tried the CHaan Nike Air but I hear wonderful things!

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  49. Hi! Thanks so much for the info on good shoes for traveling. I'll definitely check out Cole Haan and the other suggestions. Too bad J. Crew doesn't make anything sturdy enough. Now, I do have some Cole Haan Nike sandals - really thick soles and big cris-cross bands over the top of the foot (they put out this style every year). Would those work?

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  50. OT but please let me review J.Crew items:

    I received a Quilted patent-leather Quincy tote (item 99938). I do love this bag! I have been looking for a bag which I can carry my note computer. Quincy hobo was cute but little disappointing because it was not large enough to put my computer. So I decided to buy Quincy tote. First, the color is amazing! “Victorian rose” goes with almost any colors of my clothing: gray, beige, white, navy blue and even yellow. Second, I worried the texture of the leather because someone mentioned the leather of Quincy hobo was very hard. But it is much softer than I expected. Top bands are long enough to use as a shoulder bag. Unlike Uptown tote, this bag is lined with cotton twill. Overall, it is better than my expectation for its price (around $150).

    On the other hand, I was truly disappointed with Solid leather opera gloves in dusty rose (item 98621). I loved the dusty rose color of Wide patent leather belt and wanted to match this glove with my belt. However, the color of the opera glove is completely different from the picture shown on web - more like “orange” pink, which reminds me of rubber gloves for housework. J.Crew, please be consistent in colors! Also the cutaway seam makes these guys look more like rubber gloves. Yeah – they are exactly like rubber gloves! Most of retailers (like ZARA) offer opera gloves around $75, which are much better. This product really needs improving.

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  51. Thanks BugPin (love that name!) ~ I think I will order the Astrid in size 6, and hope its not too big. To Anon. I have the tissue henley q/ sequins on the placket in champagne & love it, but, I had to get the XS bec. IMO, it runs HUGE ~ usu wear a S, but it was pretty gynormous on.

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  52. I wish Quilted Quincy tote had metal feet:)

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  53. OT: Anyone have the Duchamp print Astrid?

    I just bought it very early Monday morning/middle of the nigth/before the website mess as the price is fantastic...and I loved the jacket from the moment it came out.

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  54. If my only choices were to walk barefoot around Italian cities - or any cities, for that matter - or wear J.Crew shoes ... I'd be barefoot. J.Crew shoes are the most uncomfortable I've ever tried on. Just the thought of wearing them while walking for hours hurts.

    Comfort shoes may not look as chic, but unhappy feet = unhappy person, whereas nicely shod feet = person who can delight in discovering her surroundings.

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  55. I don't have this coate, but do have the lady day coat in this color and LOVE it! The fit is so flattering - and I love the heather majestic purple. Fun color, without being as bright/loud as the dark poppy

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  56. I haven't tried the Cole Haan air wedges, but count me as a fan of the Cole Haan air pumps. I find them very comfortable as I'm keeping tabs on an bbossing around the elves this time of year.

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  57. I' "Pre-Returned" from this a.m. & guess what? The items arrived today! Guess they were not sold out (?). How bizarre.

    Oh, and I have on a French-terry yoga jacket and boy is it nice as a casual item. Super comfy and extends past my hips. You need a tank under it but it's nice to wear around without looking like a bum.

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  58. anon & FFM, thank you so much for letting me know about the non-final sale! I just called CS to ask about a few products in stock and they also confirmed that there is no final sale now - the next one probably won't be till January. It's all returnable, no matter what the price ends with.

    So now I'm just going to take my chances with everything!

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  59. Anon @ 11:49 - I tried on the tissue sequin placket henley and found the "v" in front to be way too low (would need to wear a cami under the shirt). Otherwise, the fit was more or less like their other tissue tees. I'm petite and usually find their tissue line to be too large for me in the shoulders... which would probably explain why things tend to droop down lower on me. (That and I have a very small chest. So not much there to help hold things up :)

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  60. semi-off topic but does anyone have any recommendations for JCrew coats? I'm looking for a warm longer coat. (Hopefully something that can stand up to New England winters). I really like the shape and length of the Lady Day coat, but I'm not sure how warm it'd be. Any suggestions?

    (Also, am I the only one who's a little frustrated that the coats don't have their length listed in the descriptions?)

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  61. My Duchamp print Astor jacket is due to arrive today. Will post my comments after receiving. I loved it too, and thought the price now totally worth it.

    Just received and immediately returned the Golden roses jacket. What looked great on the model looked like Golden Roses wallpaper on me. Was so very disappointed.

    Please keep your fingers crossed for the Duchamp Astor. Would hate two disappointments in a row.

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  62. I too was enticed by the reduced price of the Duchamp print Astor jacket. I got mine last week and am undecided about whether to keep it. Even for $229 with the 30% off, I still need to love it - and I'm not sure I do. Yes it is a bold print, but it seemed almost overwhelming/very loud when I first tried it on and looked in the mirror. If it was a little more tailored/fitted at the waist i think I would like it better.

    I need to try it on again with pants that I would actually wear it with. I look forward to hearing reviews from others who will be receiving it.

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  63. Thanks so much for the review of the Marie coat! I have been watching the metallic houndstooth version, but it seems the fit of the Marie coat would not be good for my body type (curvy). So now I need to find a new object of desire! Hope the website is up. ;-)

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  64. I love the fabric for the sequined henley t - it's really soft. I too have to size one down. The placket is cut kind of deep, so I have to careful to place the shirt properly so I am not exposed. The little bit of sequins is fun, and not enough to be tacky! I got the light pewter, but I will get the champange next time.

    himmiefan - the nike sandals sounds like it will be fine. You will probably want another pair with closed toes for days that you will be running around in the ruins in the forum in Rome. I didn't really have problems with footwear in Venice, btw, it's just crowded, but those cobblestones in Florence really killed my feet. Rome is hard walking in the ruins, but the city streets are well paved.

    I usually bring a pair of J Crew ballet flats for more dressy events (not for extended walking) when I travel. They packed into next to nothing (comparing to heels).

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  65. OT, but I got my Turkey Code order today and my dream long cardigan in blue was an XS, even though I ordered a S and the bag was marked S. Now they are out, I am very sad...

    I just wish it weren't so much trouble to order online. Even the package tracking is difficult. An embedded UPS link wouldn't be so hard to write a program for, would it? But no, you have to copy and paste your order number to track it or just go to UPS.com and do the same with the tracking number. Boo.

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  66. Tammylee,

    May I ask how tall you are?

    I posted earlier about ordering the Duchamp Astor.

    I know the print does seem loud but at 5'10" I am think it will work for me. (here's hoping).

    Also, even though I am thin (130 lbs.) I do carry my weight (thanks to having had a baby) at my middle so the A-line shape should work well.

    Open to more opinions on this jacket as well:)

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  67. O/T Did anyone check on their orders from yesterday before the crash to see if they got processed today?

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  68. Tina M

    I got a bikini top (2 tops actually) instead of a top and a bottom even though the one package said bottom. JCrew really needs to look at their returns/repacking/
    WHATEVER---I am thoroughly pissed at them! Mine is also now SOLD OUT!

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  69. So I just experienced my very first jcrew item cancellation.. And it's a item they have tons of in stock. Go figure.

    I called them & they claim they just got a shipment in, & I can re-order the item. Um.. NO. I'm not paying shipping again & missing out on the 30% off turkey discount I got before.

    It seems like there's a lot of new people working the phones. She put me on hold to see what she could do.. Seems to be an easy one to me -- re-order the item for me at 30% off & waive the shipping. Then she accidentally hung up on me & I had to call back.

    I called back.. No problem in reordering the item.. BUT then I realized that on the original order, I'd used a $100 gift card & charged the rest to credit -- they only charged $55 to the gift card & the rest to credit (b/c of the cancelled item). WHY the hell would I want to keep a $45 balance on my gift card, & charge the rest to my credit card?????? Logically, don't you apply the gift card and THEN the difference on credit??

    I'm SO frustrated. I know these things can be fixed, but I shouldn't have to watch my orders like a hawk & catch these errors. And because of such a delay in them actually pulling the items for me & charging my account, the Canadian exchange rate has worsened & now I'm going to pay more for the items than I would have had they shipped them in a timely manner. It's just not worth it to shop with you, jcrew. Sorry.

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  70. OK - Just opened my Duchamp Print Astor jacket.

    First of all, I love the material. Could be worn as either a light coat or jacket, so it is flexible.

    The pattern is somewhat overwhelming. The bell sleeves along with the less fitted shape of the jacket are a lot(I am 5'6"). I can see it being flattering on a taller woman. I do not think one need be slim to pull off the jacket, just taller. Because of the sleeves and the looser fit there is a lot of material right around the waist. Open, it looks quite cute, but once it is buttoned, the fit fails on me. I might keep it, but will need to try on again. I tried it one with a brown shirt underneath, dark jeans and high heels. Because of the bold print, simplicity is key. I also prefer to wear my jackets with one button fastened, so this jacket will be a struggle for me.

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  71. Himmiefan, I currently live in Italy and for the most part, sandals will be fine if that is what is most comfortable for you. If you are visiting the Vatican, you will need to have non-sandal shoes (I think, I visited in the winter so it wasn't a problem for me). I also recommend buying shoes in Italy - Florence or Venice especially - the leather is unbelievable - so soft and comfy, very different than J.Crew shoes (even the ones made in Italy are not even close to the leather you find over here).

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  72. Beth: I ordered the Alessia mary janes in black. Normally I'm a size 8.5 in other shoes and a size 9 in JCrew. I took a size 9 in this shoe.

    I really like the look of the shoe. I wore them for a wine and cheese where I was standing for 2.5hours. No blisters but my feet were sore I guess because of the 31/2 inch heel. The price has come down a lot on these shoes.

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  73. Marta: I am Canadian too, and I will no longer order from J Crew, they messed me up good this time, and you cannot get to the CA "A " team, all you get is new hires.

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  74. Duchamp Astor update. All - I have just solved the fit problem on me. I am going to have 3 inches of the sleeves lopped off and change it into a 3/4 sleeve jacket. This eliminated the excess fabric at the waist and keeps the bell sleeve in check. Also, the arm looks slender coming out of the bell sleeve which gives some needed definition. This will be a very cheap fix with the tailor, as there are no buttons or cuff on this jacket. Now I am quite happy. Yeah! Those who are easily cold might not like this fix though. I am a huge fan of 3/4 length sleeves, as my arms are slightly short for my body anyway.

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  75. Anon @ 4:11:

    I'm about 5'5", 120 lbs. I loved the jacket since I first saw it in the catalog and I really want it to work. I'm going to try it again tonight with appropriate clothing when I have more time to evaluate it!

    I hope it works for you. I think it's adorable!

    Anon @ 4:15:
    Your thoughts on the jacket are very similar to my first impression when trying it on. Let us know if you have a change of heart after trying it on again.

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  76. Tammylee: What size of the Astor jacket did you order? I actually placed an order for one this morning, but am now concerned I should have sized down.

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  77. FFM: I got a 6, which is the same size I typically wear in J.Crew jackets - primarily because I have broad shoulders. A 4 would be too snug for me.

    Please let me know what you think of the jacket when you get it. I'd also love your ideas on what to wear with it!

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  78. Thanks Tammylee! I got a 4, which is what I've been wearing in the J.Crew jackets lately, so I should be ok...I almost opted for the 2, but have the same issue with broad shoulders as you do, so I stayed with the 4. I'll definitely let you know what I think when it comes, and I will style some sets for it, too.

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  79. anon at 4:18 - thanks for the response re: alessia shoes. glad to hear they weren't awful to wear! i hate when the cute shoes are the most uncomfortable...

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  80. got my second turkey order :( maybe i have problems because i order more then one thing at a time... i was missing one item (thankfully still in stock), and additionally had a pair of 120s pants in a size 6t. not a chance i ordered those! oh well, at least i was able to reorder my missing item (free shipping! and at 30% off!)

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  81. ot - anyone own the silk taffeta belle? i've had it a few weeks now and can't figure out what to wear it with....

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  82. Alexis:
    At the risk of complaining, I think a post about the shipping issues may be worth considering. I just got my order and instead of the university pants I ordered, I got crewcut leggings. Thankfully, CS was superb and they will ship the pants at no cost to me. Hearing everyone's situation tells me that my experience was not unique.

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  83. I just got my first Turkey order today! I even caught the package as soon as UPS delivered, an hour before my hubby got home.

    I finally gave in and ordered the Lucinda coat in navy in 0P. It fits verrrry tight on top in the chest area, then loosens up below. It's also very fitted in the shoulders. I wore a thin top underneath and had virtually no more room in the chest and shoulders. For reference, I'm about 5'2" with at least a 34B bust. The sleeves, on the other hand, are wide open at the bottom - the wind can blow right up your arms. I'm definitely wearing mid-cuff gloves with this coat.

    All in all, the stadium cloth material (at least in the Lucinda) is pretty sturdy and hefty. More than I expected, anyway, having tried on many coats in the store lately. It's still not as plush or warm as last year's Dani wool/cashmere coat (probably my warmest yet), but I think it will keep me sufficiently warm through the winter. It's a lot more fitted on top than last year's Dani wool/cashmere coat too.

    I'm going to keep it. Having now received this, I feel a lot better about taking a chance on the Bridget.

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  84. Hi, I'm Erica!: I recently received crewcuts leggings instead of my sparkle plaid tweed pencil skirt! CS did a couple We Will Find Its to try to replace my skirt, but it just took patience before I could order it again online. That same week I received a silk taffeta special occasion dress instead of my double-serge pencil. The crewcuts leggings took the cake for me, as they were labeled "parkle plaid tweed p" on the plastic. I thought ordering just 1 item at a time would help me avoid cancellations, but toddler pants?! Ridiculous.

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  85. Anon @ 4:46 - What color did you get for the taffeta belle? For ideas, you can try looking on polyvore. I have the belle in pink and I wear it with white/ivory sweaters or cardigans. HTH!

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  86. They lost 5 items - 2 orders of mine from last week.

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  87. Now I am getting nervous hearing all of these lost/screwed up orders...I ordered with "turkey" on the 25th. My order is due to be delivered tomorrow, but a few of the items I wanted are almost out of stock, so I am worried that they will be sold out by tomorrow. Then if I am missing anything from my package, I am otu of luck. Aaaahhhh!

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  88. jennifer - yeah i searched polyvore, but i was trying to come up with something that wasn't too dressy (which is hard because the silk one is a little shiny). but thanks, i keep looking around.

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  89. anon @5:25 - LOL what makes you think you'd get the items the second time around?? ;)

    At this rate, I think people should start reporting when their orders AREN'T screwed up.

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  90. anin@ 5:25 - If it's any consolation, I haven't had any mistakes or cancellations yet with my orders. I had 6 items in the order I just received today and all came correctly. All my orders before that miraculously came out fine too. My online cart gets emptied often though, so I'm always checking back to make sure things are available. Hopefully your order will come through okay!

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  91. OMG: These error stories are a complete and total nightmare...This is bad beyond bad. If this is a just a sample of what has been going on at JCrew...can you imagine the other errors we don't hear about....OMG. I am just horrified beyond belief. I WILL NOT SHOP at JCREW anymore in 2007. I WILL NOT SHOP at JCREW anymore in 2007. (I have got to remember this...and say it over and over again.)

    Whether it is one item or 10 it doesn't seem to matter...error after error after error.

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  92. welcome to 2008! :)

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  93. Marta: haha good point!

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  94. La Petite Crew: I was too on a winning streak with J Crew 15 perfect orders then it happened big time on 2 separate occasions in the same week, I did not re-order that order could get messed up to.

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  95. Plain and simple:

    start reporting JCrew to the Better Business Bureau.

    It is an easy process and I had to do it for another company that used to be reliable and then wasn't.

    JCrew needs a wake up call and this may be the only way we go back to good service.

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  96. That is what really strong pain killers after back surgery will do...it made me forget what year I am in....too funny. Gotta laugh at myself:)

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  97. Thank you for all of the great advice on what shoes to wear in Italy! If I can't wear knock-out shoes, at least I can wear some knock-out J. Crew outfits and carry a great bag (thanks for the Quincy tote review). Oh yeah, I've read about covering knees and shoulders in churches.

    Maybe I can get some of the Palermo sandals on sale and wear them at least in Venice. I don't remember having any trouble last time (this is my first time in Rome, though). Oh, and to Anonymous in Italy, I'll definitely purchase some shoes there. I'm salivating already!

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  98. Erica:

    It is not a complaint. You have a right to receive your order and J.Crew has an obligation to deliver the contract in return for receiving the money. Companies who can not cope with customer claims will lose the market share and eventually die in the future. Management of Toyota always says that customer claims contains full of business opportunities for them. "Kaizen" means improvement of thousands of claims and complaints. Only companies who make tremendous efforts to improve minor and major issues can reinforce its competitiveness. Excellent management can do it. J.Crew management and employees should take what is happening right now seriously, listen to customers patiently, and analyze current problems; Why your customers complain? Why inventories management is out of order? Why IT system haven not fixed yet even six months after upgrade? Why items aren’t delivered properly? Why customers always return items? There are always reasons behind each problem. The current issues are no longer problems which individual customer representatives can cope with. It is a management level issue. It is huge negligence of J.Crew management to leave issues like this. J.Crew management should take any measures immediately rather than hoping that customers will endure those issues. Otherwise, it would jeopardize the company position as well as your own position in the future.

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  99. I second (or third or fourth or whatever we're at) Cole Haan Nike Air shoes for walking around. I have a pair of mocs and they're amazingly comfortable.

    But if you're wearing something not so comfortable, or breaking shoes in, I recommend Band-Aid Blister Block. It's usually next to the Band-Aids in the first aid aisle of Walgreens and looks like a little blue deodorant stick. You just apply it wherever you might get a blister, and it helps the shoe slide over your skin instead of rub your skin dry. Amazingly effective, super cheap, and small enough to carry around in your purse.

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  100. This is OT, but can I get some help choosing a color for the calfskin Jamie bag? I don't live near a store that carries this bag. Which would be the best color? I can't decide between:

    Black - looks like a classic, but the color on this style may look a bit old. Seems very practical!
    Cloud (gray) - a neutral but seem to scratch easily. Even the leather creases look kinda whitish on the gray tone.
    Burnt sienna - Very pretty, but is it a true neutral that will go with everything? And will it show scratches easily too?
    Pink - Is it practical?

    I am a Mom of a three-year-old. If you own this bag or have seen it in the stores, please tell me what you think!

    Feedback from FFM most appreciated!

    Many TIA!!

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  101. Anony@6:03
    Do you really want to place an order? I wouldn't!!!!

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  102. This is late, but thanks to everyone for the review of the Marie coat! I love the heather majestic purple color-- have a sweater from a couple years ago in this shade-- but I didn't want another long coat (i.e., Lady Day), so I got the Marie during the TURKEY sales. Eagerly waiting for it... Bit apprehensive about this "cocoon" structure.

    and4mynexttrick, I'd love to see real life pictures...!

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  103. Alexis,
    Maybe start a new voting over to the side about "Are you getting your JCrew order?" with various choices so we can keep a tally going...and see...this holiday season.

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  104. Anon @ 5:39 PM

    I will also file the claim at the US Better Business Bureau Org (BBB)! It seems to be easy than I expected

    https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/GetStarted.aspx

    I hope that the BBB will send J.Crew a wake up call!

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  105. anon 6:25 - J Crew's explanation for the screw ups is free shipping on your next order, gift cards so in the BBB eyes JC has tried to make amends for the error.

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  106. Hey! I don't know if this has been posted on the blog yet but I thought these articles were interesting.

    1. Here evolve24 mentions the influence of blogs on J.Crew.. It discusses the Summer fiasco, and I would not be surprised if the blog they were talking about is this one!
    2. And here, this website mentions A/B testing and something about ATG Customer Experience Platform. ---This reminded me of the two different SHIP100 and SHIP125 codes on the J.Crew website recently. I remember someone on this blog suggested that J.Crew may be doing A/B testing!

    Apologies if this has already been posted!

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  107. Anony@6:35

    I was not offered either of the things for my messed up order. I called two times and was just told "Sorry" both times. Nothing else. So I can and did make a BBB report.

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  108. I know this if OT but I had to share. Today I got the trixie heels in warm ivory for only $78. They were marked down to $139 with an extra 30% off, plus I had a 20% off coupon. I have wanted them for a while and was surprised to see them since my store doesn't usually have shoes. They are so pretty.

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  109. I second what kitchy7 said about Band Aid Blister Block. It's fantastic!

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  110. Question - I recieved a sweater with a hole in it on 12-19, called CS, and they told me to return it with the smart label and they would credit me for the entire amount (including my original S+H) because of the defect. I mailed it back on 12-21, and as of yesterday they say they don't have it back yet. I am in MA, does anyone know how long this takes? I want the credit back to my cc and I am getting nervous!

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  111. love: Thanks for posting this, I hate to complain but I feel these screwups need to be publicized, blogs are shaking up the way do business.

    anon: Good luck with the BBB hope you get action.

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  112. Steph: Does UPS show the package as delivered to J.Crew? My return took almost 2 weeks to be credited after it was received by the returns warehouse...I wouldn't worry until next week, and then if you don't get your credit by Monday or Tuesday you should call them.

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  113. I have never gotten anything for free, either, after several screw-ups on my orders since the website fiasco (wrong merchandise shipped, cancelled orders, orders sent separately with only one tracking number so it was impossible to tell what was going on, and most recently, a "lost" item that I'm sure was never shipped). Apologies, yes, but extra stuff like free shipping or gift cards, never. I guess it would be nice to get some small token of J.Crew's esteem, but what I'd really like is my old reliable J.Crew back!

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  114. Came home to my "Turkey" order today and instead of a cashmere bataeu sweater, I received a cashmere ruffled neck cardigan. I've already been on hold for 15+ minutes. I AM SO DONE JCREW! You have lost my on-line business.

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  115. Hi, I meant I returned it on 11-21, not 12-21, sorry brain fried tonight! FFM: I used the smart label through the post office, so I don't even know if I can track it. (OT - I love reading all of you styling ideas!) I will give it until next week, hopefully it is just delayed because of the holiday!

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  116. maryw2062: I am the anon from last night, I just want to tell you that you were right abot the parcels never showing up since there were no tracking #s.

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  117. Anonymous at 7:35

    I didn't want to upset you but I kind of figured you wouldn't get your package. Just stay on CS for that merchandise credit, and watch your statements. I personally haven't had any problem with credits, etc., but other contributors have, so be vigilant.

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  118. Thanks for the kind words Steph! On your return...did you write down the USPS confirmation number? If so, you can track it on the USPS site. Also, if you type in your order number on the J.Crew website it will show when it DOES get returned.

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  119. Anon @ 6:03: Re...Jamie Bag: Does your current wardrobe have a color *theme*? For example...do you wear a lot of bright colors, pastels, or tend to wear more neutrals such as black, gray, and brown? I would choose the color that coordinates best with what you wear on a day to day basis. As for my preference...I LOVE the metallic Jamie bag. It's the only Jamie Bag I have actually seen IRL, and it is gorgeous...a really great neutral, too. :)

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  120. maryw2062: Thanks, I did get my credit tonight, I had amazing CS up until tonight I got the runaround, they offered to place a new order but I chose not to reorder the items I am so done with J Crew. I love their clothes but it is not worth the hassle.

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  121. 7 monthes is just way to long for these on-line/warehouse issues to be going on. What kind of mouth breathers do they have running the show at JCrew? Are people being held accountable for this nightmare?

    They don't seem to be listening to our verbal complaints. I'm afraid the the only way to really voice our frustration at this point is to hit JCrew where it hurts...the bottom line. We just have to stop ordering on-line, or least drastically cut back. Tall order, I know with so many people without a store nearby. I really don't see any other alternative at this point.

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  122. wow, that's too bad about all the messed up orders. I did have those problems over the summer, but recently (~3-5 orders placed in November) I've received everything correctly and faster than anticipated. I didn't order with the TURKEY code or with the additional percent off madness - I went to the store instead when I could. Thanks for the heads-up, I'll skip online for a while!!

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  123. oh and mathteacher, sorry for the delayed reply!! yes, Jeremy's is in the San Francisco area. Some weeding to go through (I've taken some shirts home to find huge holes that I somehow missed), but if you're ever in town, the Berkeley one has a lot of JCrew stuff. Last week I bought the champagne Rose Tee for $20 (their regular price). Some items are clearly samples (written SAMPLE in permanent marker inside), but you can luck out, like the Lulu heels and flats in my size, the color I wanted, long after the website sold out, for $59! Makes me wish I had friends on twitter to alert me what's in store!

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  124. Does anyone use debit card instead of credit card to place orders?

    I noticed that everytime I place an order, J.Crew charges me extra $1.00 in addition to the amount I should originally pay (price + shipping + tax). Is it normal practice?

    I am not trying to complain, just want to make sure whether J.Crew overcharges or not.

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  125. anon @ 6:03 - I've seen the pink, honey glaze, and terra cotta Jaime bags. They are all very pretty and the leather is smooth and shiny, but not shiny in a cheap-looking way. it's supple and well-made leather (at least it looks to be).

    One thing I noticed right away is that the bag was smaller than I thought it would be. Remember last year's Maddie (I think that was the name of the bigger one)? I think the Jamie is smaller. It's okay for me day-to-day, but not really when I need to fit in work stuff/snacks/magazines. I mean, it fits a lot, don't get me wrong. But it just barely fits a lot of stuff I would carry around if I were carrying "mommy" stuff. I think the uptown tote is a little more forgiving for stuff like that. The Jamie has 2 inside pockets, which is fine but not Coach competition. I usually end up with a Coach from the outlet.

    I personally think the terra cotta Jamie goes with the most number of things. It works with a black/gray/navy wardrobe base and it works with a beige/ivory base. It also works very well with a lot of colorful wardrobes (like mine). If you can only buy one, the terra cotta will give you a lot of mileage. Personally, I've been thinking about getting the rose color. It's a beautiful shade and it's kind of classic, so even when hot pink and fuchsia aren't so in style, it will still be beautiful.

    Good luck!

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  126. Love,

    Thank you for sharing the articles. These are interesting:)

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  127. Is jcrew.com down or my computer wrong?

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  128. On the Jamie bag: have seen in the store, the calfskin shows scratches VERY easily (store ones all scratched up) so I would get the black if you really want this bag. Otherwise I would get a regular leather bag that is easier to maintain. And yes the bag is not very large as others mentioned.

    On the smartlabel through USPS: This is the cheapest way to return stuff, can take up to 3-4 weeks. I learned my lesson on using these and will pass up the free return shipping from a smartlabel and pay for UPS or fedex ground myself to return items to online merchants. It's a matter of 3-4 days versus 3-4 weeks, and you get a real tracking number from UPS or Fedex. Post office won't give you one on pre-paid stuff.

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  129. I was wondering if anyone could help me on coat sizing ... What do you think of the petite vs regular sizing? Is the 2P smaller than the 0 or do you need to order a 0P if the 0 is too large. Thanks in advance!

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  130. yep, it's down. :(

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  131. Yeah, it's down...again

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  132. Re: ordering,

    I just got my TURKEY order today--amazingly, all 8 items arrived in right sizes, no defects. I was confident enough to go place another order--and now the "STAY TUNED" is back again!

    I need to return a few of the items tomorrow at the store so I hope the system is fixed and running or they are not going to be able to process my returns...

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  133. About the Jamie bag. I have yet to see it in person but think it looks great online and catalog. I am undecided on the color as well. I am drawn to the pink, yellow and burnt sienna but am afraid it will dated after this season. I think the black looks the most classic and the richest. I am also concerned about the brass rings on each side to hold the longer strap. If you decide to not use it, it may look funny with those two rings just sitting there. Just my two cents. Good luck!

    Site is down again! I haven't been about to order anything because they locked my password. So frustrating, wish they could get it together already!

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  134. Boycott jcrew.com! Boycott jcrew.com! Boycott jcrew.com! Boycott jcrew.com! Boycott jcrew.com! Boycott jcrew.com! Boycott jcrew.com! Boycott jcrew.com! Boycott jcrew.com

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  135. Well, today I received the first of my TURKEY orders. Ordered 6 items. 1 was waitlisted and two items missing (navy tissue tee t-neck and patent serengeti clutch). Did I forget to mention that the packing slip was missing and I need to return one of the items I actually received? Called CS and they offered to reorder the items with 30% off and free shipping but the clutch was sold out and I can't be bothered with trying to reorder the t-neck. Still waiting for the plum peacoat that was "shipped" on 11/24. UPS site still says "Billing Information Received". Tomorrow is the 7th of standard shipping day. So I call back tomorrow to start a trace. I'm telling you that black hole is full of missing items! On the flip-side, I used my 25% off coupon at the Rockefeller Center store and got both the Double Serge Pencil Skirt in Deep Persimmon & Donegal Tweed Ecole Jacket in Pumpkin for a total of $94.48. And they gave me back the coupon! Maybe I should stick to shopping at the B&M. Now if I could just get them stock petites...

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  136. OT but I finally received the tartine cardigan in buttercup today. i think i'm going to return it :( the merino is see-through and the chiffon ruffles lie oddly. the color reminds me of grandma's mustard sweater, not the trendy honey glazish mustard I was hoping it would be. overall, the quality feels like Forever 21 rayon/tencel/polyester mix, NOT merino!

    I am never buying jcrew merino ever again!

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  137. I got my coupon taken away at the Westport store, boo. It definitely says on the card that the coupon is good for everything you buy until the end date (I forgot what that was, my card is gone).

    Someone in their marketing department should wake up and learn how to "write" the fine lines, that would be clearly stating the policy on the card. Not hard. Other retailers do it all the time.

    I think I'm still bitter about my wrong size sweater that is now sold out. Sorry....

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  138. On the jamie bag - I wasn't going to order it until I saw one in black at the store. The leather is so nice and supple that I just fall in love. I like the size, as it's not overwhelming, and the shape is very classical and handles are long enough that I can carry it on my shoulders. I have an uptown tote which is great for weekend when I can pile a bunch of stuff in, but the Jamie is a very classic weekday bag suitable for work.

    Anyway, I love the pink color. I don't care for Sienna - originally ordered the lulu in that color and found that it doesn't match anything in my wardrobe, even though I have a lot of neutral ivory/taupe/brown.

    Ordered the black - the quantitiy online is getting low (in the 20s?).

    Website is down again.

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  139. Oh - the leather at the coach outlet bags are not even in the same league as the Jamie. I've stopped buying bags at the Coach outlet as they are really cheaper knockoffs of the retail version.

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  140. received another incomplete order today .... this is crazy

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  141. I got my 'turkey' order today - thankfully no problems. I ordered the sequin chiffon trim shell, the twisted crystal necklace, and shearling moc slippers and will be keeping everything. The sequin shell is gorgeous and fits really nicely - I'm a pretty true small in J.Crew tops and have a small bust and the shell lays really nicely on my shoulders and has some room around the waist so it's not fitted all the way down. I love love love the crystal necklace - I think I'll be wearing it as two shorter strands rather than one long one just because I don't like really long necklaces, but it's definitely a piece that can be used to dress up a casual outfit and that will go nicely dressy ones. I ordered the slippers in an 8 because as of late I've been wearing an 8 in J.Crew shoes, but they're snug and I could have easily gotten a 9. However, I don't plan to do much walking in them, so I'm going to keep the 8 and save myself the hassle of an exchange.

    Has anyone else gotten the sequin shell? How do you plan to wear it for everyday?

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  142. This coat looks so cute! But I won't be buying it because I have other coats in mind that I like more.

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  143. Love -

    I was thinking about ATG's A/B testing capability when I mentioned AB testing. I got the pitch from ATG a few years ago and I saw that J Crew was their client.

    Anyway, the website is down, and they can't even take orders off the phone or look up orders. I hope they backed up that order database. They should have replicated the database so at least the agents can check the existing orders or inventory level and maybe go to the manual paper ordering route.

    Guess the problem is J Crew doesn't appear to be a very technology savvy company. They need to invest some money and get some help.

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  144. OT - anyone receive a 25% off coupon that they are not going to use? I would really love one. If interested please email me at katie(dot)church@cox(dot)net

    Thank you so much!!!

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  145. OT: Does anyone have a sweater in the honey glaze? I ordered a sweater in this color, as there was a narrow selection, and I am not quite sure what to expect.. looks different in different photos. Is it mustardy or more of a warm honey color? And, what colors do you wear it with? Thx!

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  146. I finally got my TURKEY order:

    Victoria blouse in camel:
    Shirt isn't as flattering as the cami - I was really hoping to like this one. Do you all like this striped Victoria blouse?

    Cashmere heirloom henley:
    With discount it was like $120 - kind of pricey for me, but super cute. I got the snow because it was ready to ship, but wish it had the contrasting, brown buttons instead of off-white. Does anyone have this sweater, and is it worth the price?

    Thanks!

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  147. kendra - I love a honey glaze cardigan with a white tank/tee and a turquoise necklace.

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  148. Anon@8:54 PM:

    The regular size 0 is usually equivalent to P2. If size 0 is too large for you, you might want to order P0. When it comes to outerwear, it depends on the size of your shoulder. The best way is to call CS and ask their advice.

    Usually I order regular size 0 and order size P2 when size 0 is not available. I feel P2 is slightly smaller than the regular size 0 but not much difference. HTH!

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  149. Not to be a total idiot... but how can you tell the inventory level of an item that's online? I always read comments from people about how many of a particular item are left, and I have no idea how you can tell!

    Thanks :)

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  150. I don't bother ordering online anymore. Between the ridiculous shipping and order issues...its just not worth it. But I guess I'm fortunate enough to live near a couple J.Crews. It's weird though, online its not final sale, but in store it is. Oh well, J.Crew loves its inconsistency...they can do it because we put up with it and keep buying. It's weird...I do love their clothes...but I am not a fan of the company. I think they take advantage of their customers.

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  151. OT: I just received the Houndstooth Greta coat. The first word that came to mind when i tried it on was "retro." It is totally mod and could almost come out of the 60s were it not for the updated collar and its slender lines.

    The color is just as it appears online -- bright, vibrant sweet potato and off white. The fabric is very soft; the details, including the buttons and back pleat, cute. It's a lightweight coat really, hitting just on the hips (well, at least mine). I expected it to be longer, would have preferred it longer and with a bit more swing.

    I found it true to size, unless wearing a thicker sweater underneath, or if you have broader shoulders. I tried it on with a thick cardigan and found it a bit constraining. I will opt for the larger size which will give me more versatility, in addition to length. I wish J.Crew made in between sizes :) or would widen the shoulders in their jackets.

    Anyway, the verdict is still out on this one. As cute as the coat is, it is very trendy (and bright!), and i rarely buy coats that i can't keep for years. Also, i've been eyeing the golden roses Renee, and may decide in favor of this one because of the more subdued colors and length even if it isn't as warm.

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  152. My turkey order arrived today and I was shorted an item. I ordered university pants in multiple sizes and colors so that I could get the right fit, and they left one pair out.

    I had a Victoria Cami left out of my last ordered. I'm kinda glad to here that other orders were goofed as well. At least I know that I am not the only one calling.

    To be fair, I ordered multiple pairs of the same boots from BR a couple of weeks ago to try for size and they sent me too many pairs!

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  153. dear ffm is the gold jamie the same material as the metallic flight bag--Borge gaveri? Also Can those with the same d- cup chest give feedback on jcrew's bikini pieces. Will the string bikinis still cover the gals?

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  154. I'm a D cup and find the bikini tops a little dangerous. I mean they are fine for lounge by the pool, you know, if you sit real still...but I always feel a little offensive in them. I found the halter style to weirdly push the gals apart...and make me just look weird. I kept the string version and wear it rarely. They do have D cup size bikini tops though, I think I will try that next time.

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  155. FFM & others who responded to my question about the Jamie bag: Thanks!
    I don't really have a color theme in my wardrobe.

    I'm also considering the metallic but I'm concerned that I may look a little too bling-bling. My work environment is pretty staid (medicine), and a gold bag may raise a few eyebrows. I do love it that the metallic may wear better when it comes to scratches. Tough choice.

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  157. Argyle:

    I have the cashmere heirloom henley in the turquoise/blue color and love it. The brown buttons do add a nice touch. I only wore it once and got many compliments. I got it recently for about $120 with a discount and I think it's worth it. I've been considering getting it in another color.

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  158. My "turkey" order of 26 items is missing four pieces.....now sitting on hold for the better part of a half hour...awesome!

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  159. My turkey order was also missing a bunch of items, all of which I was charged for. The website is down, so I can't even check if they're still in stock. I gave up on the phone after being on hold for 20 minutes.

    I guess you could say our turkey orders turned out to be a turkey. I think I'm done ordering online for the year. I've been a loyal J. Crew customer for a decade and have never experienced anything like the problems this year. Shopping should not be so unbelievably frustrating.

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  160. To the anon - sometimes you just have to go with the color you like. The bag is for you, not your coworkers. Who cares what they think?

    If you have to pay for shipping anyway and you live near a store, get the Jamie in a couple of different colors and decide which one appeals to you most and return the rest.

    Life's too short to play it safe. Get a color that makes you happy.

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  161. Anon@10:05 PM: Thanks for the sizing help!

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  162. can someone do a review of felicia coat?

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  163. Cass,

    Are you insane? What are you trying to do? Tempt the packing error Gods??? I wouldn't order again in 2008 with all the problem orders for anything!

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  164. Thanks so much for this review. I was very close to purchasing this due to the sale. A cocoon shape would not be a good look for me. I learned earlier in the fall that "Majestic Purple" is very blue and not more "plum" shade of purple. If you are looking for purple try "plum" or even "peony".

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  165. I stopped by the Madison & 45th B&M last night, and got some really great deals:

    1) Alessia patent-leather Mary Jane heels in ivory, marked down $99.99 plus an additional 30% off sale, plus 25% off card = $52.49

    2) Striped colorblock scarf in aqua spearmint, marked down $24.99 plus an additional 30% off sale, plus 25% off card = $13.12

    3) Sherpa-lined goosedown puffer vest in slate grey, special $88 plus 25% off card = $66

    My SA at the store told me that next week they are having a special in store - if you make an appointment with a SA, your entire order is 25% off. I asked if I could use the 25% off card on top of that, and they said no. But, for those that did not receive a 25% off card, this is a great opportunity to save. Also, the SA told me that the 25% off card can be used as many times as I like until 12/15. Happ shopping all!

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  166. Thanks Marietta for sharing the 25% store promotion! I just ordered a few regular priced items online. No discounts at all and paid full shipping. If I could get 25% off those items next week in store, I would just return the online stuff and purchase them again right there!

    Oh, going back to the original post on the Marie Coat. I liked the narrow double breasted style but when I noticed the raglan sleeves (which may make my shoulder wider), I knew I had to pass.

    I instead ordered the Stadium Cloth Bridget Coat in navy and the Stadium Cloth Shipley Coat. Is there anywhere I can review those coats?

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  167. BTW, if anyone tried/ got the metallic houndstooth pheobe jacket (see link), let me know what you think!

    http://www.jcrew.com/AST/Browse/WomenBrowse/Women_Shop_By_Category/blazers/jackets/PRDOVR~11377/11377.jsp

    Seriously contemplating of getting it!

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  168. Chiffon Cupcake-

    Review right here! I am DYING to know how the Shipley fits/whether it warm/what color you got/etc.!

    I know a bunch of other Aficionadas are as well!

    TIA!

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  169. Hey Ali and all, here are the details :)

    Stadium Cloth Shipley Coat
    Item #: 99248
    Color: Ivory
    Size: 0
    Current price: $250

    I have to say I am very happy with the coat. It fits well overall and is well tailored everywhere through the shoulder, chest to waist area. It also is empire waist cut which definitely elongates my legs and slims me down! I was wearing the velvet ecole jacket underneath today and the chest area got a little tight. I have a small chest so girls heavy on the top may want to order one size up or just wear a tee or something thin enough underneath. (note: if this may help on the sizing - i wear a size 0 velvet ecole jacket which is tight in the shoulder and body even with a chiffon shirt but fits very well in this coat). In terms of the length, I am 5"7 and it hits an inch longer than as shown on the model.

    The fabric is medium weight and soft and a creamy color! For some reasons, I feel that the stadium cloth used in this coat is a little thinner and less bulky than the one used in the bridget coat, which I love!

    At first I thought the style looks a little boring comparing to say the Lillie or Greta but it is so elegant and versatile! I can dress up and also down with it! It looks good with jeans and skirts.

    It is overall a good investment. I mentioned I also purchased the bridget coat. I have already returned it! It makes me look short and bulky! I do not have the problems of having too much fabric from my waist down like some aficionadas brought up before though the waist area is quite generous. I believe the very big and wide collar and the double breasted style contribute to the widening effect. Again, the stadium cloth is quite heavy weight too. I feel heavy when I wear it. I do not feel heavy at all wearing the Shipley. The navy color is also very very very dark, close to black. For some reasons, I feel like an old lady wearing it!!! :(

    Now I really want the metallic houndstooth jacket... any comments on the style? I am afraid it may age me with the style and fabric. All thoughts welcome!

    Now I am awaiting my crawford blouse, the printed version and watercolor red crawford cami. Ordered before 11 am this morning and am told it would be shipped within today but my order is still "open". Let's hope they will arrive safe and sound! Will make sure to report back!!!

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  170. Oh, whether the Shipley coat is warm? I had a chiffon shirt and velvet ecole jacket on - it is mid 40sF today. Warm enough when it is NOT windy! I do not like how wool/ cashmere feel against my skin so I do not wear winter sweaters at all. But if you do, yes, the Shipley coat is warm enough. Hope this helps.

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  171. The Shipley coat is only $199.99 (plus an additional 30% off now)!

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  172. hi chiffon cupcake,

    i received the metallic houndstooth phoebe jacket today and i must say I LOVE IT, one of my best buys this season. for its price right now, it's definitely a keeper.

    compared to the astrids i think the fit is better..its not boxy at all but very well-structured. it's thinner than i imagined so i think i can wear it till spring if i fold the sleeves..the length, however, is a bit shorter than the astrids i believe. it hits very high hip, but i wore it with a grey cami that was slightly longer and dark skinny jeans and black flats for dinner and i received so many compliments.

    the houndstooth pattern is really interesting...the tweed bit and the metallic bit are woven together...i'm so tempted right now to order the marie but i just ordered another madeline and harriet this morning...so if it turns out that i return one of those, i'm definitely getting the marie.

    i wish i had read your review on the shipley and i would have ordered that as well. i love anything with an empire waist because i'm 5'3 and it makes me look taller...i wonder if they'd do free shipping on it, since i ordered this morning.

    anyway i hope you end up ordering the phoebe!

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  173. Hey Suilove, thanks, thanks, thanks! Great to hear you're loving the jacket! I have already called a local store today to reserve one for me. Will pick it up tomorrow! Sounds like a good deal especially as you mentioned it is light enough to wear until Spring.

    Any suggestions on what accessories to wear with it?

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  174. Hi. I am a sad girl today; I ordered the lady day coat last week in a size 2 but it's too small for me. When I called for a size 4 they said they were out of stock in the chocolate color. So what are the chances that j crew will stock more coats this year or that somebody will return one? You ladies seem like you would know the answer.

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  175. Just wanted to add my two cents on the Marie Coat - ordered the ivory sz 0 and just received it - it is going right back. Hideous on, it looked like I was wearing a shapeless lab coat. And not specific to the coat itself, I find the double-cloth coats should be called jackets, because they're not nearly heavy enough to be in the winter coat category for anyone who lives in a colder part of the world. Hopefully the Carrie will be a better choice!

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  176. I disagree with the comment about the double-cloth coats being more like jackets. I have a Double-Cloth Lady Coat from 2006 and I wear it on cold Washington DC winter days/night. And the textured exterior material is very good-looking and durable. It's a solid coat and one of my favorites.

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  177. Just wanted to add my own review of the Marie coat in case anyone searches for this post on the Aficionada website.

    I ordered the Marie coat in heather majestic purple (gorgeous color). I'm 5'9 and half, usually take a 10 coats and I like mine in tall for the sleeve and body length; my body shape is athletic (broader shoulders) and straight (high and long wiast.) Because of the sleeve (raglan) and the shape of the coat (mine is more straight than coccoon), I took a big step and ordered a size down in T8. I think this was a good choice for me because it gave me more of a shape, although I think the coat would improve with a back vent (but then I guess this would ruin the "retro" look they were trying to achieve). Overall, the material is very thin compared to my Lady Day coat and another double cloth coat that I have from 2 years ago called the Camille: I can't wear this in our current 30-degree weather at all, even though I can with the Lady Day and Camille.

    I'm keeping it because the color is gorgeous and my T8 worked for me in sizing.

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